• Torus:
  • finances (2-10 spokes doesn’t affect cost; Hub radius doesn’t affect cost)
  • Spoke Radius > Minor Radius is possible (and swallows hub incidentally)
  • As I understand it, the spokes should widen as they approach the hub (1)
  • It’d be interesting to see hub’s height not tied to Minor Radius. ‘Smaller or taller’ hubs would be nice to have.
  • Air mass isn’t affected by number and radius of spokes
  • Air mass isn’t affected by Hub Radius
  • Hub Radius > Major Radius is… what is going on here?
  • Why can’t I plaster the outside of my Torus with Solar panels?
  • Lit solar panels produce as much power as shadowed panels. This should be addressed.
  • Copy-Paste structures? Not possible :/
    
• Cylinder
  • Okay, why is the stock structure more expensive than the plan allows? It costs something like 22B, whereas the Build Mode markets it as 1.6 Billion.
  • What are these pillars that are build for $100 when I shift-left-click place a lamp post? And why do they extend into infinity?
  • Well, It’d be nice to have a the ability to place multiple structures in a row, like lamp posts, without always going through the menu for every iteration.
  • I can build buildings hovering in the endcaps. I assume that isn’t intentional.
    
• Other stuff
  • The management menu is strange. Or rather, the camera is. I kind of want to have the cylinder’s surface rolled out and place my structures that way.
  • Is there a way to detach connected modules from each other? If so, it’s not communicated well. Ah, I found out. Still, not that well communicated. And a bit… arbitrary when a module is disconnected and when the whole structure is moved.
  • Moving the camera position by right-clicking while holding the Option key is hella slow. It’s far easier to move the whole station.
    

(04-05-2017, 04:12 AM)Permeable Ceiling Wrote: What are these pillars that are build for $100 when I shift-left-click place a lamp post? And why do they extend into infinity?

Quote:Well, It’d be nice to have a the ability to place multiple structures in a row, like lamp posts, without always going through the menu for every iteration.

Quote:Is there a way to detach connected modules from each other? If so, it’s not communicated well. Ah, I found out. Still, not that well communicated. And a bit… arbitrary when a module is disconnected and when the whole structure is moved.

Quote:Moving the camera position by right-clicking while holding the Option key is hella slow. It’s far easier to move the whole station.

Quote:(1) Due to stress of centrifugal force on spoke. Spokes have mass. The longer the spoke, the more mass is pulling the closer to the hub. To have equal stress per cross sectional area, you have to widen the spokes as you get closer to the hub.

(04-05-2017, 07:35 AM)JoeStrout Wrote: As for the tapered spokes:

Quote:(1) Due to stress of centrifugal force on spoke. Spokes have mass. The longer the spoke, the more mass is pulling the closer to the hub. To have equal stress per cross sectional area, you have to widen the spokes as you get closer to the hub.

That's an interesting thought, but I'm not sure I'm buying it.  The spokes are tension structures; cables would do the job just as well, except that we want them pressurized, radiation-shielded, and supporting things like elevators inside.  And none of those things vary with distance from the hub.

But I'm going to think about it some more!

• There’s no legend for overlays, what colour means what. I can guess, but…
• For Park & Rec buildings you only see prices when buying them. (At least planetarium)
• Inside view camera is weird. As in, it’s kind of stuck in isometric? Zooming out I quickly leave the confines of the colony and soon after the colony disappears in a white void.
• How can I have more residents than housing?
• What are the differences between the different paths?
• Do I even need food? There’s no statistic for consumption per person or something like that.
• The double click path laying is odd. I’d expected to finish laying by right click.
• There’s no penalty or even message for overdrawing on funds.
• Judging by the overlay the highest value plot of land I have is a playground. It’s also the only plot of land with value.
• Is there a possibility to fast forward until I have funds again? Or at least accelerate time further?
• I get complaints about internet speeds and such. I assume a bigger or additional antenna would help. I’ve no idea how to add one to the existing and built station.
• Police drone just flew through my Tall Ag Tower.
• Net annual ≠ (sum of income) - (sum of expenses); also, the information popup of net annual income is probably intended to be a snapshot? Because I actually expected it to change, just like the summarised field in the statistics window does. The annual income seems to be generally in high flux, especially when switching from inside to outside view.
• An atmospheric haze, or pseudo-haze, would be nice in outside view.
• There seems to be a general discrepancy between outside and inside. I just had 0.000 CO2. Squawker complains about brown leaves. Inside view, 0.040. And I have an atom regulator, so even then it shouldn’t have been a problem.
• The Zones. It’d help if you coloured the buttons accordingly, so it’s clear which zone is which colour. And the distinction between low, middle, and high density is… suboptimal.
• There a big discrepancy in statistics between inside and outside view. Inside I have 1000 jobs. outside 1700. Inside I have 30M annual income. Outside less than 20M, and so on. I presume that’s intentional and respective of the habitat in particular and the station in general?
• The opportunities/projects thinjamajig is… I don’t know what it does, really. I buy stuff with exp, but I don’t build it, right? It’s like a tech tree progression?
• In the Design parts, I’ve built a station. When I’ve not selected anything, the analysis window/mass tab shows me 2.76B in cost for HEO. When I select the hab the cost change to 42.9B. I only have, like, 1.7B base grant, I can’t overspend that by a factor of over thirty. I am confused.
• Also in the Design parts, changing the shielding and atmosphere of a part to 0.00 lowers the cost to 0$, regardless of building material.
  

• You can have a few more residents than housing because they are living in company quarters now shown, shacking up with friends/relatives, etc.  Otherwise, it'd be impossible to build the first house, because there would be no one to build it (er, to control the giant 3D printers that build it).
• Different path types are cosmetic at this point.  But we expect them to affect traffic someday.
• If you don't grow enough food, you will import it (which costs $).  If you grow more food than you need, you'll export it (which generates $, though not as much as importing costs if I recall correctly).
• No, there is no fast-forward of time yet.
• You can't add to an existing colony; you can only build a new one.  However, slow internet speeds aren't enough to keep residents from moving in.
• Net income seems to add up to me:
  
  ...total income $31.6 M, total expense $19.9 M, net $11.7 M.  If yours doesn't add up, maybe you can post a screen shot? (Oh yeah, and yes, it's a snapshot, because it's a modal dialog rather than a floating palette.)
  

• Stats in the outside view are always for the whole colony, while inside, most of them reflect just the habitat part you're in; I don't know if this accounts for the differences you're seeing or not (but we'll look into it).
• In Design mode, the analysis tab shows details for the current selected part, or the whole colony if no selection; but the latter should never be less than the former, so you've found another weird case there.
  

(04-05-2017, 04:12 AM)Permeable Ceiling Wrote: Cylinder:
Okay, why is the stock structure more expensive than the plan allows? It costs something like 22B, whereas the Build Mode markets it as 1.6 Billion.

(04-05-2017, 01:27 PM)Permeable Ceiling Wrote: Inside view camera is weird. As in, it’s kind of stuck in isometric? Zooming out I quickly leave the confines of the colony and soon after the colony disappears in a white void.

• Kind of too few people milling about. I’ve got a population of 400 and a work force of 1000 or something and see mere 10 strolling about. Why not have a few seated at the two Donut shops that for some reason opened up next to each other?
• Have the connections to adjacent modules visible when you’re inside a hab, if applicable. In cylinders that’d be most likely at the axis, the bearings connecting to docking ports.
• Exiting the game sometimes changes the resolution to the initial 640x640 or whatever it was. (Sometimes means always on one computer, never on the other. Difference between the two are desktop/laptop, native resolution, windowed/fullscreen.